Last year Joya de Nicaragua released the Joya Red. This year they followed it up with the Joya Black. This is the first cigar using the Mexican San Andres Negra wrapper in their portfolio.

They will be released in 20 count boxes and 4 vitolas: Nocturno (6-1/4x46), Robusto (5-1/4x50), Toro (6x52), and a Double Robusto (5x56).

 

Check out our IPCPR 2016 interview with Juan Martinez:

 

Vitola:  Toro

Size:  6” x 52 Ring Gauge

Wrapper: Mexican San Andres Negra

Binder:  Nicaraguan

Filler: Nicaraguan

Cigars Smoked for this Review: One each

Price Point:  $7.95 MSRP

Cigar Purchased: Manufacturer’s Samples

Quick Note: For this review we used Logan’s rating system. You can view it in detail here.

 

 

 

 “Even though the final score has this as a box split, this is a no brainer box buy for me and is no doubt going to be a contender for cigar of the year.”

 

Check out my video review here:

 

Surgeon’s Rating:  93 AKA “Box Split”

The nose on the Joya Black has a lot of cedar with hints of cedar. In the foot I’m picking up some elegant, stewed fruit sweetness.

Using a single v-cut I found the draw to be perfect.

I pick up tons of chocolate with trailing sweetness off the initial draw. The retrohale, by contrast, is very sweet, and airy like a marshmallow. Some spiciness does start to develop at the same level as the sweetness, but falling off quite quickly on the post draw. I’m just completely blown away by the elegance and layers of the retrohale. The chocolate continues to ramp up in intensity as the first third progresses.

 

 

The chocolate starts to drop to a light level moving into the middle third, and the elegant sweetness starts to give way to cedar. Once the middle third establishes itself, the chocolate comes back in intensity to push back on the cedar. The retrohale also because more soft and nuanced. At the halfway point of the Joya Black I get a subtle Islay peat smoke which mixes in wonderfully with the chocolate notes.

In the last third some medium strength earthy notes come into the mix. The earthiness does abate falling back to a light plus, allowing the Islay smoke and chocolate to be more detectable. The spices are quite light here.

Total smoking time 1 hour and 59 minutes.

The performance of the Joya Black in the last third really brought the overall score down. That could be related to this being an IPCPR sample. Even though the final score has this as a box split, this is a no brainer box buy for me and is no doubt going to be a contender for cigar of the year.

I will be seeking these out in every vitola to find out which one performs the best.

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Comment by Matt Ross on August 9, 2016 at 8:45am

I know we discussed this, but I'm blown away by your review.  I'll have to smoke it again, but I smoked one and thought it was not very good.  I got a baking flour taste off the beginning that tasted slightly metallic.  One of the people I was smoking with actually pitched the cigar halfway through.


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Comment by Cigar Surgeon on August 9, 2016 at 8:53am

Bad humidification or early review samples? Several people have responded on Facebook saying this was one of their favorite cigars coming out of the IPCPR.


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Comment by Matt Ross on August 9, 2016 at 9:30am

No idea...they came from IPCPR.  I wouldn't think it was bad humidification because I've smoked some fantastic cigars that were stored together.  For example, the All Out Kings Corona was fantastic.

I'll surely smoke it again.

Comment by Doug on August 9, 2016 at 10:12am

Great review!

I've found that when I see very differing reviews like you guys have discussed (I saw the conversation yesterday), I end up picking a few up and look for consistency issues.  Especially if I can get them from multiple sources.  Matt, hopefully you guys just got a couple bad sticks, because I really want to like this one.  Joya Red is a staple for quality budget sticks for me.  


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Comment by Cigar Surgeon on August 9, 2016 at 11:07am

I smoked the All Out Kings Torpedo, so that probably explains our different impressions. 


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Comment by Juan I. Martínez on August 9, 2016 at 11:10am

Great review! I'm glad you enjoyed it. My only question is regarding your last comment: "The performance of the Joya Black in the last third really brought the overall score down. ". I'm not clear from your vide review what why that was so? Thanks!


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Comment by Cigar Surgeon on August 9, 2016 at 11:22am

Hey Juan, thanks for taking the time to watch the review and comment! The last third became quite earthy and pushed aside the chocolate and Islay combination that I was getting. It fell off at around the halfway point of the final third but the profile was a significant departure from the rest of the cigar.

As I mentioned, that's more of a subjective analysis from my taste preferences. To me this is a cigar of the year candidate and I will be seeking out all the vitolas to try and then buy a box or two.


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Comment by Juan I. Martínez on August 9, 2016 at 11:38am

Thanks brother. Appreciate your feedback. I just wanted to know if it was a flavor/taste thing or it was a underperformance in other respects. But thanks for the clarification. By the way, where are the Facebook comments you mention in your response to Matt? 


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Comment by Cigar Surgeon on August 9, 2016 at 11:39am

Lots of discussion under: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157259043280191&set=a...

The other discussion was on a secret Facebook group :)

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